Empathetically Apathetic

Madeleine and Rachel

Empathetically Apathetic is a podcast hosted by two therapists who care a lot and not at all. Madeleine and Rachel are sisters who talk about a range of topics from mental health to social justice to death and dying. Yes, they are both really mental health therapists. No, this is not therapy. But listen in, and you might find something therapeutic about it!

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