Outside In
Joel Krieger & Pavani Yalla
This is a podcast about the moments that change us. Join your hosts, Pavani Yalla and Joel Krieger, as they discover design in unexpected places. These conversations cover a kaleidoscope of experience — from wilderness treks to VR films, communal festivals to immersive theater. Each episode, they deconstruct an experience with its creator — together, revealing what makes it transformative. A fascinating exploration on the frontier of design for change, this series is for anyone who yearns to transform something about the reality they experience.